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Cold rolled vs hot rolled steel: which bar should a machined part be made from?
Hot rolled steel is steel that leaves the mill in the shape it was rolled to while still above its recrystallization temperature, so it carries mill scale, loose size limits and little cold work. Cold rolled steel, which for bar is more accurately called cold finished or cold drawn, starts as hot rolled bar that is cleaned and then drawn, turned or ground at room temperature to a bright surface, tighter size limits, higher strength and a built-in pattern of residual stress.
By Saola Manufacturing engineering team · Published · Updated
For a machined mild-steel part, the choice between the two is not about which steel is “better.” It decides how much stock has to come off before the first good surface, whether the part stays straight after a flat or keyway is cut, how consistent the chemistry is from heat to heat, and whether the material callout on the drawing actually tells a shop overseas which bar to buy. This guide works through those questions using the ASTM specifications that govern each product form, and ends with callout examples and what to put on the RFQ. Only the public scopes of the standards are quoted here; check tables against the edition named on your drawing.
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What is the real difference between cold rolled vs hot rolled steel for machining?
The difference is the last operation at the mill: hot rolled bar is sold as it came off the hot mill, while cold finished bar has had its scale removed and its section reduced or turned cold. That one step changes size accuracy, surface, strength and internal stress at the same time.
In the US system these are separate purchasing specifications, not two conditions of one product. Hot-wrought carbon bar for machining, forging and heat treating is bought to ASTM A576 (special quality) or ASTM A575 (merchant quality, for noncritical parts). Cold-finished bar is bought to ASTM A108, whose scope names bars “for machining into components” and for shafting. The general requirements for both bar families, including the grade chemistry tables, sit in ASTM A29/A29M; its size tables cover hot-wrought bar, while the size tables for cold-finished bar now sit in A108 itself.
A36 is different again. ASTM A36/A36M covers carbon steel shapes, plates and bars “of structural quality” for riveted, bolted or welded construction, and its bars take their dimensional rules from ASTM A6/A6M, the general requirements for structural products. It is a strength specification for steelwork that happens to be available as round and flat bar, not a machining-bar specification.
A note on words: “cold rolled” is exact for sheet and strip, where ASTM A1008 covers cold-rolled sheet and ASTM A1011 covers hot-rolled sheet and strip. Cold-finished round bar is cold drawn, turned and polished, or ground and polished, not literally cold rolled. Old drawings that say only “CRS” or “HRS” leave the grade, the specification and the finishing route open, and a supplier will fill that gap with whatever is cheapest locally.
| Property | A36 hot rolled bar | 1018 hot rolled bar | 1018 cold drawn bar |
|---|---|---|---|
| Purchased to | ASTM A36/A36M, dimensions per ASTM A6/A6M | ASTM A576 (special quality) | ASTM A108 |
| What the spec mainly controls | Minimum strength; carbon as a maximum only, no minimum | Chemistry by grade | Chemistry by grade, plus cold-finished size and straightness |
| Carbon, weight % | 0.26–0.29 max, rising with bar size | 0.15–0.20 | 0.15–0.20 |
| Yield strength | 36 ksi (250 MPa) min | about 32 ksi (220 MPa), typical | about 54 ksi (370 MPa), typical |
| Tensile strength | 58–80 ksi (400–550 MPa) | about 58 ksi (400 MPa), typical | about 64 ksi (440 MPa), typical |
| Size tolerance, 1 in round | Per ASTM A6/A6M hot-rolled tables | 0.009 in (0.23 mm) over or under; up to 0.013 in (0.33 mm) out of round | +0 / −0.002 in (−0.05 mm) |
| Surface as delivered | Mill scale, decarburized skin | Mill scale, decarburized skin | Bright, scale-free; seams possible |
| Residual stress | Low, from uneven cooling | Low, from uneven cooling | Significant, from cold drawing, unless stress relieved |
How much stock do you lose on hot rolled bar compared with cold drawn?
On hot rolled bar every finished surface has to be machined, and the stock you buy must be big enough to clean up the scale, the decarburized skin and the out-of-round allowance. Cold drawn bar can often be bought at or just over the finished diameter and left as-drawn on surfaces that do not need a closer limit.
The size tables in ASTM A29/A29M (hot wrought) and ASTM A108 (cold finished) show the gap. For a 1 in round, hot wrought bar carries a plus-and-minus size tolerance several times wider than the minus-only tolerance of cold drawn carbon bar, and it may also be out of round, measured as the largest minus the smallest diameter at one cross section, by more than the cold drawn bar’s whole tolerance. A cold drawn diameter that only needs to be within a few thousandths can sometimes be used straight from the bar, which is why turned fittings, pins and spacers so often specify cold finished stock.
Hot rolled bar needs a cleanup allowance. Size the raw stock so the finished diameter is reached after removing the full scale and decarburized layer all round, with the out-of-round allowance from the table on top. As industry guidance, the long-standing AISI machining-allowance table for special quality carbon bar puts the minimum at about 3 percent of the diameter per side when turned between centers, which on a 1 in bar is roughly 1/16 in (1.5 mm) on diameter. Skimming less than that leaves a soft, decarburized skin and a pitted surface that will not plate well.
Do not turn a cold drawn surface you meant to keep. If a diameter is left as-drawn, say so on the drawing (for example “Ø0.750 as-drawn stock, no machining”) and give it a tolerance that the bar size table can actually meet; otherwise a shop will either skim it, losing some of the strength gained in drawing, or reject good bar. For tolerances tighter than the bar can hold, the tight-tolerance cost guide explains what each extra decimal place adds.
How do mill scale, decarburization and seams affect a machined part?
Mill scale is a hard, abrasive iron oxide that shortens tool life on the first pass, and the decarburized layer below it is softer than the core. Cold drawn bar avoids both, but it can carry longitudinal seams that only show after plating or heat treatment.
On hot rolled stock, the first cut should get under the scale in one pass rather than rubbing along it, because a light cut that rides in the scale wears the insert fastest. Scale left on any surface also has to come off before finishing: zinc plating, powder coat and paint need pickled or blasted steel, and a part with patches of original scale on unmachined faces will show them through the finish.
Decarburization matters most when the surface has to be hard or carry fatigue load, because the decarburized skin is softer and weaker than the core beneath it. If an unmachined hot rolled surface sits in the load path, specify a maximum decarburization depth or require that surface to be machined. ASTM A576 offers supplementary requirements for purchasers who need superior surface quality or special metallurgical characteristics; they apply only when named on the order.
Cold drawn bar has a clean, bright surface that machines and plates predictably, but drawing does not remove seams already in the hot rolled feedstock. For parts that are fatigue loaded, crimped or plated bright, turned and polished bar, which has had the original surface machined off, removes that risk at a higher material cost.
Why does cold drawn bar warp after machining, and how do you prevent it?
Cold drawing leaves the bar with balanced residual stresses, typically tension near the surface and compression in the core, and cutting a flat, slot or keyway on one side removes part of that balance so the bar bows. Hot rolled bar carries much less of this stress, which is why it is often preferred for parts with heavy, one-sided material removal.
The symptom is familiar: a shaft that measured straight before milling a long keyway comes off the fixture with a few thousandths of bow, or a cold drawn flat that has a pocket milled into one face no longer lies on the surface plate. Concentric turning disturbs the stress pattern evenly and usually does not cause trouble; asymmetric removal does.
There are four standard fixes, in rough order of cost:
- Balance the cut. Rough both sides, unclamp, then take light finishing passes. For a keyway, cutting a matching relief opposite is sometimes acceptable on non-cosmetic parts.
- Buy stress-relieved bar. Cold drawn and stress relieved bar keeps most of the strength and size accuracy of drawn bar with much less movement in machining. Name the condition on the drawing; a supplier will not assume it.
- Stress relieve after roughing. A thermal stress relief between roughing and finishing lets the part move before the final passes. This costs a furnace step and may discolor the surface.
- Start from hot rolled stock. For a long part with a large one-sided cut, hot rolled bar machined all over is often straighter at the end than cold drawn bar, at the price of more cleanup stock.
Whatever the route, put the straightness or flatness requirement on the drawing as a geometric tolerance, not as a note about the bar, so inspection checks the finished part rather than the stock.
When does A36 make sense, and when should you specify 1018 bar?
Use A36 when the part is structural steelwork that gets some machining, such as a welded bracket, base plate or gusset where a building or structural code asks for A36. Use 1018 when the part is machined from bar for its function, needs consistent machining from lot to lot, or will be carburized, and choose its cold drawn form when size accuracy and strength matter.
The reason is what each specification controls. Per ASTM A36/A36M the purchaser is guaranteed a minimum yield of 36 ksi (250 MPa) and a tensile range, while carbon carries only a maximum, with no minimum, and most other elements are capped rather than held to a narrow window. Two heats of A36 can therefore machine and weld differently, and some mill product is dual-graded, meeting A36 and a higher-strength grade at the same time. That is fine for a welded frame; it is a nuisance for a turned part that runs on a fixed program and tooling.
1018 is a grade designation with a defined carbon and manganese range in the grade tables of ASTM A29/A29M, so its machining, welding and carburizing response is predictable. As cold drawn bar it is a common default for pins, spacers, shafts and fixture components, and its low carbon makes it a standard carburizing grade when a part needs a hard wear surface over a tough core. Its weakness is machinability: plain low-carbon steel is gummy, forms long stringy chips and gives a poorer as-cut finish than a resulfurized grade.
That leads to the other options worth comparing. Where machinability matters more than weldability, resulfurized grades such as 1117 or the free-machining 12L14 and 1215 cut faster and leave a better finish; the 12L14 vs 1215 guide covers their limits. Where strength matters more, 1045 or an alloy steel chosen through ASTM A400, the practice for selecting steel bars by section and required mechanical properties, is the usual next step. A36 in round bar is rarely the best answer for a lathe part; when it appears on one, it is usually because it was the bar on hand, not because the part needs it.
Does the choice change welding, case hardening or plating?
Yes, in predictable ways: welding and heat treatment erase the extra strength of cold drawn bar near the heat, carburizing response is predictable on 1018 but not guaranteed on A36, and both forms plate well once scale is removed. The finish callout should be written for the bare steel, not the stock form.
Cold drawing raises yield strength by work hardening, and heat undoes it. Near a weld, or through a whole part that is annealed, normalized or carburized, the cold drawn advantage in strength disappears, so do not design a welded or heat-treated part around cold drawn strength values. The bar’s size accuracy and clean surface still save machining before heat treatment, but the drawing stresses relax in the furnace and can add distortion, so stress-relieved bar is worth naming for long carburized parts.
Both A36 and 1018 are routinely welded. A36’s scope points to the weldability appendix of ASTM A6/A6M and asks for a welding procedure suited to the grade and service. For case hardening, use a grade with a defined carbon range; an A36 part may carburize acceptably, but nothing in the specification promises it.
For corrosion protection on mild steel, zinc plating with a trivalent passivate and oil-dip rust protection are the usual low-cost options, and the zinc plating vs galvanizing guide compares them with hot-dip coatings. If the part is case hardened before plating, the plating specification should call for a hydrogen embrittlement bake; the bake guide explains when that applies.
How should the drawing and RFQ call out hot rolled or cold drawn bar?
Name the grade, the product specification and the condition in one line, then say which surfaces may stay as-supplied and what certification you need. A callout like “AISI 1018 cold drawn bar per ASTM A108, stress relieved” tells a shop exactly what to buy.
Examples that leave no room for substitution:
- Machined shaft, size-critical: “MATERIAL: AISI 1018 COLD DRAWN BAR PER ASTM A108. MILL TEST CERTIFICATE REQUIRED.”
- Part with a long one-sided slot: “MATERIAL: AISI 1018 COLD DRAWN, STRESS RELIEVED, PER ASTM A108” or “AISI 1018 HOT ROLLED PER ASTM A576, MACHINE ALL OVER.”
- Welded base with machined pads: “MATERIAL: ASTM A36/A36M PLATE.” Add a grade such as 1018 only if the machined features need predictable chemistry.
- Equivalents: if you will accept an EN, ISO or JIS grade, name it; if not, write “NO SUBSTITUTION WITHOUT WRITTEN APPROVAL.”
On the RFQ, add the annual volume, which surfaces are functional, any heat treatment or finish, and whether you need a mill certificate per lot. The EN 10204 certificate guide explains which document type proves what, and the RFQ package guide covers the rest.
For turned parts, the CNC turning page lists the steel bar running at our lead CNC plant today as 52100, C1117 and 12L14, plus ASTM A513 DOM tube; 1018 and A36 are not on that list, so if your drawing names them, say in the RFQ whether C1117 or another listed grade is acceptable. The CNC milling page is explicit that milling here is a second operation on castings, not a general billet-machining shop, so a part cut entirely from A36 plate is better placed with a dedicated machining house. Material certification is available on request, as listed on the quality page, and zinc plating, blue trivalent chromate and oil-dip rust protection are on the surface finishing menu our partner plants apply, with the quote naming where each step is done. When the drawing is ready, send it for a quote.
Frequently asked
Is cold rolled steel stronger than hot rolled steel?
In the same grade, yes: cold drawing work hardens the bar and raises yield strength noticeably, with a smaller rise in tensile strength and a loss of ductility. The gain is lost wherever the part is later welded or heat treated, so it only counts for parts used as machined.
Is “CRS” on an old drawing enough to quote from?
Not really. It says cold finished, but not the grade, the specification or whether the bar is drawn, turned or ground. Expect the supplier to ask, or to quote the cheapest local low-carbon bar. Replace it with a grade and an ASTM A108 callout at the next revision.
Can A36 be used for a turned part?
It can, and it will usually work, but carbon is only capped and other elements are mostly maximums, so machinability and finish can vary between heats. If the part is made on a lathe for its function rather than as structural steel, a defined grade is the safer callout.
Does hot rolled steel rust faster than cold drawn?
Neither is corrosion resistant. Intact mill scale gives hot rolled steel brief protection indoors, but it cracks and flakes, and rust starts under it. Any part that will see humidity needs a finish or oil, whichever form the bar started as.
What is the difference between cold drawn and turned, ground and polished bar?
Cold drawn bar is pulled through a die, which work hardens it and leaves residual stress. Turned, ground and polished bar has its original surface machined off and is then ground to size, giving closer size limits, a better surface, no seams and lower stress than drawn bar, at a higher price per foot.
Sources
- ASTM A36/A36M-19, Standard Specification for Carbon Structural Steel (scope), ASTM International, 2019
- ASTM A6/A6M-26a, General Requirements for Rolled Structural Steel Bars, Plates, Shapes, and Sheet Piling (scope), ASTM International, 2026
- ASTM A29/A29M-23, General Requirements for Steel Bars, Carbon and Alloy, Hot-Wrought (scope), ASTM International, 2023
- ASTM A108-24, Standard Specification for Steel Bar, Carbon and Alloy, Cold-Finished (scope), ASTM International, 2024
- ASTM A576-25, Standard Specification for Steel Bars, Carbon, Hot-Wrought, Special Quality (scope), ASTM International, 2025
- ASTM A575-20, Standard Specification for Steel Bars, Carbon, Merchant Quality, M-Grades (scope), ASTM International, 2020
- ASTM A400-23, Standard Practice for Steel Bars, Selection Guide, Composition, and Mechanical Properties (scope), ASTM International, 2023
- ASTM A1008/A1008M-26, Steel, Sheet, Cold-Rolled, Carbon, Structural, High-Strength Low-Alloy (scope), ASTM International, 2026
- ASTM A1011/A1011M-25, Steel, Sheet and Strip, Hot-Rolled, Carbon, Structural, High-Strength Low-Alloy (scope), ASTM International, 2025