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When should a drawing call for dye penetrant inspection or magnetic particle testing on castings and weldments, and what acceptance criteria apply?

Short answer

Dye penetrant inspection is a surface examination in which a liquid penetrant is drawn into surface-breaking cracks, laps and pores, the excess is removed, and a developer pulls the trapped penetrant back out as a visible or fluorescent indication. It works on almost any nonporous metal, while magnetic particle testing finds surface and slightly subsurface flaws only in ferromagnetic steel and iron; neither method sets its own pass/fail limit, so the drawing has to name the acceptance standard and level.

By Saola Manufacturing engineering team · Published · Updated

This guide is for the design, quality or sourcing engineer who has just found cracks or open porosity on castings or welded assemblies after delivery, or who wants to stop it happening on the next order. The usual root cause on the paperwork side is simple: the drawing either said nothing about surface examination, or it said “dye penetrant inspect” with no method, no zone and no acceptance level. Below: how to recognize the problem, why defects slip through, how to choose between penetrant testing (PT) and magnetic particle testing (MT), which acceptance standards apply to castings and welds, what a complete callout looks like, and how the work is split on a Saola order.

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How do you know a delivered part needs a surface NDT callout?

If cracks, cold shuts, laps or open porosity are being found at your receiving inspection, at assembly, under a pressure test or in the field, and the drawing has no surface examination requirement, the supplier had no obligation to look for them.

The typical signs are hairline cracks at fillets, junctions and weld toes that show up only after paint or plating fails; pinholes on a machined sealing face; a lap or cold shut that opens under load; or a crack that a customer found with their own penetrant kit. Visual inspection catches the coarse defects, but fine, tight cracks are often invisible to the eye on an as-cast or as-welded surface. TWI describes penetrant examination as a very sensitive method, capable of finding extremely fine flaws, provided the surface is properly cleaned and prepared first (TWI, advantages and disadvantages of penetrant examination).

Before you add a callout, confirm that the defect really is surface-connected. Internal shrinkage or gas porosity that only appears after a cut is a different problem with different tools: see the guide on porosity that appears after machining and the X-ray grading guide.

For the lot already on your bench, work through it in this order before you rewrite the drawing:

  1. Quarantine and count. Tag the suspect lot, record how many parts show the defect and where on the part it sits, and photograph each indication next to a scale.
  2. Confirm it is surface-breaking. Re-examine the suspect zones with penetrant (or MT on ferromagnetic steel) after cleaning off paint, oil and plating residue; a coating left in place can hide the opening. If an MT indication may be spurious, for example at a change in magnetic properties or a dissimilar-metal joint, TWI suggests dressing the surface and confirming with penetrant (TWI Job Knowledge, NDE part 1).
  3. Classify the indication. Note whether each one is linear (crack, cold shut, lap) or rounded (pore), its length, and whether it sits at a fillet, a weld toe, a machined face or an as-cast skin. Location usually points to the source: casting, welding, heat treatment or a later machining or grinding step.
  4. Agree the rule before sorting. Write the acceptance limit you will sort to, per zone, and get the supplier to accept it in writing; without it, every reject is a negotiation.

Why do surface cracks and porosity reach the customer?

Ranked by how often they explain an escape: no examination was required, the wrong method was used for the material, the examination was done at the wrong point in the routing, or the acceptance level was never defined.

  1. No requirement on the drawing or PO. Without a callout, the only check is whatever visual inspection the supplier does by default.
  2. Method does not fit the material. Magnetic particle testing does not work on non-ferromagnetic metals and alloys such as austenitic stainless steel (ASTM E3024/E3024M-22a); aluminum and copper alloys are non-ferromagnetic too, so an MT note on a 304 stainless weldment examines nothing.
  3. Examined at the wrong stage. Grinding, wire brushing and machining can smear soft metal over a crack opening, especially on aluminum and copper alloys, and an acid etch may be needed before penetrant can enter (TWI Job Knowledge, NDE part 1). Coatings get in the way too: TWI notes that penetrant cannot normally be applied to painted objects (TWI, advantages and disadvantages of penetrant examination), so an examination done after painting or plating proves little.
  4. No acceptance level. “PT per ASTM E1417” tells the inspector how to examine, not how much indication is acceptable. The inspector and the supplier then fill the gap with their own judgment.
  5. Field direction or sensitivity too narrow. An MT examination magnetized in one direction only can miss cracks running parallel to the field, and a visible-dye penetrant is less sensitive than a fluorescent one.

Should the drawing call for dye penetrant or magnetic particle testing?

Call for magnetic particle testing on ferromagnetic steels and irons when you also care about defects just below the surface; call for penetrant testing on everything else, including aluminum, zinc, copper alloys and austenitic stainless steel.

Penetrant testing is limited to nonporous metal and nonmetal components and finds only discontinuities open or connected to the surface (ASTM E1417/E1417M-21e1). Magnetic particle testing detects surface or slightly subsurface discontinuities in ferromagnetic material (ASTM E3024/E3024M-22a). For aerospace work the MT practice is ASTM E1444/E1444M, which is written around the wet fluorescent method; general industry uses E3024/E3024M (ASTM E1444/E1444M-26). Use the table as a first screen.

PT vs MT decision table, compiled from the scopes of ASTM E1417/E1417M-21e1, ASTM E3024/E3024M-22a and ASTM E1444/E1444M-26 (ASTM International, 2021–2026) and TWI technical guidance
Question about the partPenetrant testing (PT)Magnetic particle testing (MT)
Carbon, low-alloy or martensitic stainless steel, cast or ductile ironWorksWorks; usually preferred
Aluminum, zinc, magnesium, copper alloys, austenitic stainless steelWorksDoes not work
Defect open to the surfaceDetectsDetects
Defect just below the surface, not openMissesCan detect if shallow
Porous or very rough surface (as-cast sand, coarse grind)Practice covers nonporous parts only; rough skin hampers interpretationPossible; rough surfaces give false indications
Freshly machined or ground soft alloyEtch first to remove smeared metalNot applicable to non-ferrous alloys
Crack orientation unknownAny orientationMagnetize in two directions at right angles
After examinationRemove penetrant and developer residueDemagnetize and clean if specified

Two details decide many cases. First, MT is sensitive to orientation: a flaw shows best when it cuts the magnetic flux at 90°, so TWI advises generating fields in two directions at 90° to one another; flaws at up to 45° from that ideal are still accepted as shown (TWI, defects of all orientations). Second, the subsurface reach of MT is shallow; TWI puts it at up to perhaps 1 mm below the surface for rectified half-wave DC prods, depending on flaw size and orientation (TWI Job Knowledge, NDE part 1). Anything deeper needs radiography or ultrasonic testing.

Within penetrant testing, the drawing can also fix the sensitivity. Fluorescent penetrant gives greater sensitivity than visible (red) dye, per the same TWI article, so critical zones are typically called out with a fluorescent system and cosmetic or non-critical areas with visible dye.

Which acceptance criteria apply to castings and weldments?

The examination practices (E1417, E3024, E1444) say how to test, not what passes. Acceptance comes from a product or code standard: ASTM A903/A903M for steel castings, ASME Section VIII or ISO 23277 and ISO 23278 for welds, or a level you define yourself with reference photographs.

The reference photograph standards are often misread as acceptance standards. ASTM E433 shows the types of surface discontinuities that penetrant reveals, but states that no attempt has been made to set limits of acceptability; the user specifies indication size, length and count (ASTM E433-71(2023)). ASTM E125 plays the same role for dry-powder MT indications on ferrous castings, as an aid to classification (ASTM E125-63(2023)).

Where PT and MT acceptance criteria come from, per ASTM A903/A903M-99(2024), ASTM E433-71(2023), ASTM E125-63(2023), ISO 23277:2015, ISO 23278:2015 and ASME BPVC Section VIII Division 1 (2025 edition)
Part typeAcceptance documentWhat it gives you
Steel castings (MT or PT)ASTM A903/A903MNumbered acceptance levels for linear and nonlinear indications; different levels may be assigned to different locations on a drawing
Non-ferrous castings (PT)Purchaser-defined limits, using ASTM E433 photographs as the vocabularyIndication types only; you write the size, length and count limits
Ferrous castings (dry-powder MT)ASTM E125 photographs plus purchaser-defined degreeGraded pictures of discontinuity types; no limit until you pick one
Metallic welds (PT)ISO 23277Acceptance levels for surface-breaking indications; grouped indications not covered
Ferromagnetic steel welds (MT)ISO 23278Acceptance levels tied to ISO 17638 techniques; grouped indications not covered
Pressure vessel welds and partsASME BPVC Section VIII Division 1, Appendix 6 (MT) and Appendix 8 (PT)Fixed rules on relevant, linear and rounded indications

ASTM A903/A903M applies only when the contract or order invokes it, and it lets the purchaser assign different acceptance levels to different locations, in which case a drawing showing the levels and locations should go with the order (ASTM A903/A903M-99(2024)). That zoning is the most useful lever you have: strict levels on sealing faces, fillets under load and weld-prep edges, relaxed levels on non-functional surfaces.

For welds, ISO 23277 and ISO 23278 say their acceptance levels can be related to welding and application standards, with the relationship to the ISO 5817 quality levels shown in ISO 17635; neither covers acceptance levels for grouped indications (ISO 23277:2015; ISO 23278:2015). Pressure equipment uses the ASME rules instead: in ASME BPVC Section VIII Division 1 (2025 edition), Mandatory Appendix 6 for MT and Appendix 8 for PT, an indication counts as relevant only above 1/16 in (1.5 mm); every relevant linear indication is a reject, so is any relevant rounded indication over 3/16 in (5 mm), and so is a row of four or more relevant rounded indications whose edge-to-edge gaps are 1/16 in (1.5 mm) or less. Check those figures against the edition your vessel is built to. Structural steel built to AWS D1.1 follows that code’s own criteria, so cite the code and edition your design is built to rather than mixing documents.

How should a PT or MT callout be written on the drawing or RFQ?

A complete callout names the method and practice, the technique or sensitivity, the zones, the stage in the routing, the acceptance standard and level for each zone, the sampling, and the records and personnel qualification.

A note built that way can be quoted, performed and disputed on the same terms. An illustration of the format, not a recommendation for any particular part:

  • Method: fluorescent penetrant per ASTM E1417/E1417M in Zone A; visible dye permitted in Zone B. (For a carbon-steel weldment: wet fluorescent MT per ASTM E3024/E3024M, two directions at right angles.)
  • Zones: Zone A = sealing face, O-ring groove and fillets marked on sheet 2; Zone B = remaining machined surfaces; as-cast surfaces outside A and B visual only.
  • Stage: final examination after machining and heat treatment, before any coating, plating or impregnation; etch machined soft-alloy surfaces before PT.
  • Acceptance: per ASTM A903/A903M at the level stated for each zone, or for non-ferrous castings the indication limits written on the drawing using ASTM E433 terms; for welds, ISO 23277 or ISO 23278 at the stated acceptance level, or the governing code.
  • Sampling: stated in the PO, with heavier sampling at first article and after any process change.
  • After examination: remove residues; demagnetize after MT if the part goes near sensors, bearings or machining.
  • Records and people: report per lot with procedure, materials, zone results and the inspector’s qualification under ISO 9712 or the employer’s written practice to ASNT SNT-TC-1A.

Before release, run this buyer checklist against the drawing: is the material ferromagnetic (if not, delete MT)? Are zones drawn, not only described? Is the stage named relative to machining and coatings? Does every zone have an acceptance level, not just a test standard? Is a repair or rework rule stated, such as whether a cracked casting may be weld-repaired and re-examined? Personnel qualification is covered by ISO 9712:2021; the first article guide covers how the NDT report fits into the wider FAI package.

What do penetrant and magnetic particle testing miss?

Both methods miss internal porosity and shrinkage that does not reach the surface, and PT also misses tight cracks that are smeared over, filled with oil or sealed by a coating. Use radiography for internal soundness and a leak test when the real requirement is pressure tightness.

The penetrant practice is written for nonporous components (ASTM E1417/E1417M-21e1): on a porous or very rough surface, penetrant held in the surface texture makes interpretation difficult, and TWI notes interpretation is a problem on naturally rough surfaces (TWI Job Knowledge, NDE part 1). A sand casting with a coarse as-cast skin is therefore usually examined only on its machined or ground zones. Penetrant residue is a contaminant in its own right: it must be cleaned off before welding, coating or vacuum impregnation, and on a part that will be impregnated the penetrant examination comes first, since the sealant fills the very openings the penetrant needs.

MT can show spurious indications where magnetic properties change, such as a heat-affected zone, at the joint between metals of different magnetic characteristics and on rough, uneven surfaces (TWI Job Knowledge, NDE part 1), which is why the acceptance standard distinguishes relevant from non-relevant indications. If the defect you found was a leak path rather than a crack, the leak testing guide is the better starting point, and the receiving inspection guide covers how to quarantine and sample the suspect lot.

Who does what on a Saola order when the drawing calls for PT or MT?

CNC turning, milling and welding are done at our lead CNC plant, T.K Viet Nam Precision Company Limited in Vietnam; die castings, sand castings and all surface finishing come from partner plants we manage. Each quote names the production site and the country of origin, and states who performs any penetrant or magnetic particle examination.

We do not claim our own NDT laboratory. When a drawing calls for PT or MT, the examination is arranged with the casting partner or with an independent testing laboratory, and we confirm before quoting which practice, technique and acceptance standard the examiner will apply and what qualification the inspector holds. Machining is planned so the final examination happens after the cuts that could open or smear a crack, and before the part goes to finishing. Parts are machined by CNC milling or CNC turning; the die casting and sand casting pages describe the partner-plant programs. If machining opens a crack, the aim is to photograph it, mark its location on the drawing and report it to you before the lot moves on. ISO 9001 certification is in progress, not held; the quality page lists the records issued today. Send the drawing with zones, method and acceptance levels marked through the quote form.

Frequently asked

Is dye penetrant the same as liquid penetrant testing?

Yes. Dye penetrant inspection, liquid penetrant testing, PT and LPI all name the same method. “Dye” usually implies the visible red system, while fluorescent penetrant is read under ultraviolet light and is more sensitive.

Can magnetic particle testing be used on stainless steel?

Only on ferromagnetic grades such as martensitic and ferritic stainless steel. Austenitic grades such as 304 and 316 are outside the scope of the MT practices, so use penetrant testing on them.

Is “PT per ASTM E1417” enough on a drawing?

No. E1417 is a test practice; it does not say which indications are rejectable. Add zones, the acceptance standard and the level for each zone, and the stage of the routing at which the examination is done.

Should castings be examined before or after machining?

The final examination should follow the machining and heat treatment that could open or create cracks and come before any coating. An earlier as-cast examination is useful to reject bad castings before machining money is spent on them.

Does a part that passed PT or MT have no internal porosity?

No. Both are surface methods, with MT reaching only slightly below the surface. Internal porosity and shrinkage need radiography, and pressure tightness needs a leak test.

Sources

  1. ASTM E1417/E1417M-21e1, Standard Practice for Liquid Penetrant Testing, ASTM International, 2021
  2. ASTM E3024/E3024M-22a, Standard Practice for Magnetic Particle Testing for General Industry, ASTM International, 2022
  3. ASTM E1444/E1444M-26, Standard Practice for Magnetic Particle Testing for Aerospace, ASTM International, 2026
  4. ASTM E433-71(2023), Standard Reference Photographs for Liquid Penetrant Inspection, ASTM International, 2023
  5. ASTM E125-63(2023), Standard Reference Photographs for Magnetic Particle Indications on Ferrous Castings, ASTM International, 2023
  6. ASTM A903/A903M-99(2024), Standard Specification for Steel Castings, Surface Acceptance Standards, Magnetic Particle and Liquid Penetrant Inspection, ASTM International, 2024
  7. ISO 23277:2015, Non-destructive testing of welds — Penetrant testing — Acceptance levels, ISO, 2015
  8. ISO 23278:2015, Non-destructive testing of welds — Magnetic particle testing — Acceptance levels, ISO, 2015
  9. ISO 9712:2021, Non-destructive testing — Qualification and certification of NDT personnel, ISO, 2021
  10. ASME BPVC Section VIII, Division 1, Rules for Construction of Pressure Vessels, ASME, 2025 edition
  11. Non-destructive examination (NDE) part 1: liquid penetrant and magnetic particle inspection, TWI Job Knowledge, accessed October 2026
  12. In magnetic particle inspection, how do we ensure that defects of all orientations are detected?, TWI, accessed October 2026
  13. What are the advantages and disadvantages of penetrant examination?, TWI, accessed October 2026

NDT zones marked? Send the drawing for a quote.

STEP plus a dimensioned PDF with the PT or MT zones and acceptance levels. The reply covers price at your volume, who performs the examination, and any zone that needs a conversation first.